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USA atomic strike
22-07-2014, 06:34 AM
Post: #1
USA atomic strike
Yeah,I know that its ''just a game'',but why does only the USA nuke Russia and China?In real life,USA has less nukes than Russia,but more than China.So,it would be proper,if you remake it this way: Russia nukes USA,USA nukes China.

P.c. USA is not the center of the worldBig Grin

P.p.c. it isn't that difficult to rewrite a few lines in the code?
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22-07-2014, 10:18 AM
Post: #2
RE: USA atomic strike
But USA has much more firepower than Russia. Come on, do you really want to evoke a new geopolitical quarrel? Tongue

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22-07-2014, 11:10 AM (This post was last modified: 22-07-2014 11:14 AM by tau1996.)
Post: #3
RE: USA atomic strike
(22-07-2014 10:18 AM)PL_Soczek Wrote:  But USA has much more firepower than Russia. Come on, do you really want to evoke a new geopolitical quarrel? Tongue
we are talking about Nukes,not army...And the nuke arsenal of Russia is bigger,and its PRO(ARS) is more powerfull...The nukes are the power,so the chance of the RF nuking the USA is much larger than the reverse.


P.c. about the army
Have you heard about an SSSR ex-agent,specialised on nuke-espionage,that died in Britain,in 2005,and was de-secreted only after death?And the 5?There are lots of KGB agents in all countries,even in China.Do you know about the new stealth corvette of the Federation,that was detected in the EU waters a bit to late(in war-time,it would have sunk some big ships),or the exo-sceleton for 5000 ru(less than 100 dollar exosceleton,civil,but could be remade into combat-form),or the Topol mobile nuke platform?or the next-gen capsuled Armata tank?or the 'sharks'?or the ''green terminator'?And the russian infantry...I saw the wids of some of RFA ops...Those are real warriors...You shoot off his leg-he crawls with a gun.You shoot off his hand and he bite-grabs a grenade pin,camikaze-style...
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22-07-2014, 11:48 AM
Post: #4
RE: USA atomic strike
Actually the number of nukes (at least over 100) wouldn't make any difference, just because it would be enough to destroy all life on earth, especially in a global nuke exchange. Does it matter then, if you have 1500 or 2000 nukes? I assume not.

Furthermore, half of your planes and tanks are at least 50 year old, soviet heritage, decaying monuments. We have some of these in our army in your legacy (I mean Poland). So what that You have 1,2,5 new technologies, when the american army (which is much bigger) is all built out of them. Ok, I have to admit that Russian mentality is different then American, especially when a quarter of the "fit for duty" Americans are MCDonald entusiasts with obesity.

Whatsmore USA has many allies, for instance Iran, Izrael, Whole Europe, NATO, South Korea.

If you don't believe me go on the "GlobalFirepower" website. Well unless your goverment lets you...

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22-07-2014, 12:03 PM (This post was last modified: 22-07-2014 12:04 PM by tau1996.)
Post: #5
RE: USA atomic strike
(22-07-2014 11:48 AM)PL_Soczek Wrote:  Actually the number of nukes (at least over 100) wouldn't make any difference, just because it would be enough to destroy all life on earth, especially in a global nuke exchange. Does it matter then, if you have 1500 or 2000 nukes? I assume not.

Furthermore, half of your planes and tanks are at least 50 year old, soviet heritage, decaying monuments. We have some of these in our army in your legacy (I mean Poland). So what that You have 1,2,5 new technologies, when the american army (which is much bigger) is all built out of them. Ok, I have to admit that Russian mentality is different then American, especially when a quarter of the "fit for duty" Americans are MCDonald entusiasts with obesity.

Whatsmore USA has many allies, for instance Iran, Izrael, Whole Europe, NATO, South Korea.

If you don't believe me go on the "GlobalFirepower" website. Well unless your goverment lets you...

Allies?China(the third super-power in the world,Argentina-near the USA,a Topol or Iscander placed on Argentina can nuke the USA,as for your allies-some European countries are pro-russian,while the government is pro-USA)...
And about 'old soviet tech'-RF doesnt specialise on robots and plachets.Its based on armour and gun.Is it old-tech?Nope.


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22-07-2014, 01:23 PM (This post was last modified: 22-07-2014 01:24 PM by PL_Soczek.)
Post: #6
RE: USA atomic strike
Do you really think that a MIG 29 can beat in combat a F 16? Or tanks remembering the war (for example Blinov) can beat a M-1 Abrams? I understand that not all your weapons are like that, but I am talking about at least 2000 backup tanks. I can also put a picture of a super - modern tank with laser guns and say that all Polish tanks are like that.

Do You really think that China is your ally? They are NEUTRAL, because there are many investors from the west and it could damage their economy. Why do you think that China didn't admit that Crimea is Russian? The only countries to do do so were Afghanistan, Belarus, Syria and Venezuela. Hmmm... interesting:
Belarus - a small pawn in the hands of Putin, with autocracy and censorship,
Syria - a completely destroyed country, with a regime, a war from 2011 and 300000 people killed already,
Venezuela - another country with a regime, there were many strikes against the government in 2014,
and Afghanistan - another country deep in war.

Okay, I decided to make a list of allies with their global firepower:
USA - 1. ------------- Russia - 2.
CANADA 16. ------------ ARGENTINA 55.
GREENLAND - ------------ AFGHANISTAN 76.
FRENCH GUYANA - ------------ VENEZUELA 62.
MOROCCO 65. ------------ SYRIA 26. (WAR)
EGYPT 13. ------------ BELARUS 52.
MEXICO 33. ------------ KAZAKHSTAN 80.
COLOMBIA 54. ------------ UZBEKISTAN 48.
BRAZIL 14.
NIGERIA 47.
LIBYA 78.
PORTUGAL 53.
SPAIN 28.
ICELAND -
IRELAND -
GREAT BRITAIN 5.
ITALY 12.
NORWAY 39.
DENMARK 43.
GERMANY 7.
NETHERLANDS 32.
FRANCE 36.
POLAND 18.
BELGIUM 34.
LUXEMBOURG -
GREECE 57.
TURKEY 8.
CZECH REPUBLIC 30.
SLOVAKIA 71.
HUNGARY 61.
SLOVENIA 94.
BULGARIA 70.
ROMANIA 51.
ESTONIA 96.
LITHUANIA 103.
LATVIA -
SAUDI ARABIA 25.
OMAN 69.
YEMEN 45.
PAKISTAN 15.
INDIA 4.
BANGLADESH 56.
SOUTH KOREA 9.
TAIWAN 17.
JAPAN 10.
MALAYSIA 38.
THAILAND 24.
AUSTRALIA 20.
NEW ZEALAND 85.
PHILIPPINES 37.
ALBANIA -
CUBA -
IRAQ 68.
ISRAEL 11.

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22-07-2014, 02:10 PM (This post was last modified: 22-07-2014 02:14 PM by tau1996.)
Post: #7
RE: USA atomic strike
(22-07-2014 01:23 PM)PL_Soczek Wrote:  Do you really think that a MIG 29 can beat in combat a F 16? Or tanks remembering the war (for example Blinov) can beat a M-1 Abrams? I understand that not all your weapons are like that, but I am talking about at least 2000 backup tanks. I can also put a picture of a super - modern tank with laser guns and say that all Polish tanks are like that.

Do You really think that China is your ally? They are NEUTRAL, because there are many investors from the west and it could damage their economy. Why do you think that China didn't admit that Crimea is Russian? The only countries to do do so were Afghanistan, Belarus, Syria and Venezuela. Hmmm... interesting:
Belarus - a small pawn in the hands of Putin, with autocracy and censorship,
Syria - a completely destroyed country, with a regime, a war from 2011 and 300000 people killed already,
Venezuela - another country with a regime, there were many strikes against the government in 2014,
and Afghanistan - another country deep in war.

Okay, I decided to make a list of allies with their global firepower:
USA - 1. ------------- Russia - 2.
CANADA 16. ------------ ARGENTINA 55.
GREENLAND - ------------ AFGHANISTAN 76.
FRENCH GUYANA - ------------ VENEZUELA 62.
MOROCCO 65. ------------ SYRIA 26. (WAR)
EGYPT 13. ------------ BELARUS 52.
MEXICO 33. ------------ KAZAKHSTAN 80.
COLOMBIA 54. ------------ UZBEKISTAN 48.
BRAZIL 14.
NIGERIA 47.
LIBYA 78.
PORTUGAL 53.
SPAIN 28.
ICELAND -
IRELAND -
GREAT BRITAIN 5.
ITALY 12.
NORWAY 39.
DENMARK 43.
GERMANY 7.
NETHERLANDS 32.
FRANCE 36.
POLAND 18.
BELGIUM 34.
LUXEMBOURG -
GREECE 57.
TURKEY 8.
CZECH REPUBLIC 30.
SLOVAKIA 71.
HUNGARY 61.
SLOVENIA 94.
BULGARIA 70.
ROMANIA 51.
ESTONIA 96.
LITHUANIA 103.
LATVIA -
SAUDI ARABIA 25.
OMAN 69.
YEMEN 45.
PAKISTAN 15.
INDIA 4.
BANGLADESH 56.
SOUTH KOREA 9.
TAIWAN 17.
JAPAN 10.
MALAYSIA 38.
THAILAND 24.
AUSTRALIA 20.
NEW ZEALAND 85.
PHILIPPINES 37.
ALBANIA -
CUBA -
IRAQ 68.
ISRAEL 11.

Iraq nation is not pro-USA.Arabs hate the USA
Israel is not pro USA.The Israel people even helped the DNR
Cuba is not pro USA
South Corea is blocked by its other,comunistic,part
Turkey is actually neutrall
All of the Arab nations hate the USA,but are afraid of its guns
Greece nation is not pro USA,but the government is
Bulgaria nation is pro Russia
Luxemburg is not a power
France is largely pro-Russian(Why do you think Mary Le Pen became popular)

and China is an ally of RF.Maybe not forever,but for now they are allied.Putin has a contract with China,counted in milliards upon milliards of dollars.Just look in the Google...Putin is not a fool to make such contracts with a country that he can not trust.Putin is from KGB,and no fools are recruited to the KGB.
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22-07-2014, 06:12 PM
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(22-07-2014 02:10 PM)tau1996 Wrote:  
(22-07-2014 01:23 PM)PL_Soczek Wrote:  Do you really think that a MIG 29 can beat in combat a F 16? Or tanks remembering the war (for example Blinov) can beat a M-1 Abrams? I understand that not all your weapons are like that, but I am talking about at least 2000 backup tanks. I can also put a picture of a super - modern tank with laser guns and say that all Polish tanks are like that.

Do You really think that China is your ally? They are NEUTRAL, because there are many investors from the west and it could damage their economy. Why do you think that China didn't admit that Crimea is Russian? The only countries to do do so were Afghanistan, Belarus, Syria and Venezuela. Hmmm... interesting:
Belarus - a small pawn in the hands of Putin, with autocracy and censorship,
Syria - a completely destroyed country, with a regime, a war from 2011 and 300000 people killed already,
Venezuela - another country with a regime, there were many strikes against the government in 2014,
and Afghanistan - another country deep in war.

Okay, I decided to make a list of allies with their global firepower:
USA - 1. ------------- Russia - 2.
CANADA 16. ------------ ARGENTINA 55.
GREENLAND - ------------ AFGHANISTAN 76.
FRENCH GUYANA - ------------ VENEZUELA 62.
MOROCCO 65. ------------ SYRIA 26. (WAR)
EGYPT 13. ------------ BELARUS 52.
MEXICO 33. ------------ KAZAKHSTAN 80.
COLOMBIA 54. ------------ UZBEKISTAN 48.
BRAZIL 14.
NIGERIA 47.
LIBYA 78.
PORTUGAL 53.
SPAIN 28.
ICELAND -
IRELAND -
GREAT BRITAIN 5.
ITALY 12.
NORWAY 39.
DENMARK 43.
GERMANY 7.
NETHERLANDS 32.
FRANCE 36.
POLAND 18.
BELGIUM 34.
LUXEMBOURG -
GREECE 57.
TURKEY 8.
CZECH REPUBLIC 30.
SLOVAKIA 71.
HUNGARY 61.
SLOVENIA 94.
BULGARIA 70.
ROMANIA 51.
ESTONIA 96.
LITHUANIA 103.
LATVIA -
SAUDI ARABIA 25.
OMAN 69.
YEMEN 45.
PAKISTAN 15.
INDIA 4.
BANGLADESH 56.
SOUTH KOREA 9.
TAIWAN 17.
JAPAN 10.
MALAYSIA 38.
THAILAND 24.
AUSTRALIA 20.
NEW ZEALAND 85.
PHILIPPINES 37.
ALBANIA -
CUBA -
IRAQ 68.
ISRAEL 11.

Iraq nation is not pro-USA.Arabs hate the USA
Israel is not pro USA.The Israel people even helped the DNR
Cuba is not pro USA
South Corea is blocked by its other,comunistic,part
Turkey is actually neutrall
All of the Arab nations hate the USA,but are afraid of its guns
Greece nation is not pro USA,but the government is
Bulgaria nation is pro Russia
Luxemburg is not a power
France is largely pro-Russian(Why do you think Mary Le Pen became popular)

and China is an ally of RF.Maybe not forever,but for now they are allied.Putin has a contract with China,counted in milliards upon milliards of dollars.Just look in the Google...Putin is not a fool to make such contracts with a country that he can not trust.Putin is from KGB,and no fools are recruited to the KGB.

Haha, sorry but it is the government that controls the army not a percentage of the nation. TURKEY, GREECE and BULGARIA are in NATO, so they HAVE to help. I have no idea where from did you get your information. Not sure if You know, but when any countries of the alliance are being attacked, EVERYONE must defend them. Of course there are countries like Bulgaria, Czech Republic or Hungary, that are less critical to Russia, but only because they are afraid of gas shortages with no alternative source, not PRO - RUSSIAN. Sorry, I forgot to add North Korea to Your ally. SOUTH KOREA is more powerful then North Korea, and also the situation between them, although intense, is currently pretty stable. LUXEMBOURG has about 1000 soldiers, but it is still a member of NATO. Is 20% "Largely"? FRANCE is less critical to Russia, just because they have a contract for some ships worth 200 000 000 $. And Marie Le Pen is anti - Jewish and anti - EU. Every country has someone like that (nationalist), for example Poland - Korwin or England - Farage.

Israel: Exclamation Israel–United States relations are an important factor in the United States government's overall policy in the Middle East, and Congress has placed considerable importance on the maintenance of a close and supportive relationship. The main expression of Congressional support for Israel has been foreign aid. Since 1985, it has provided nearly $3 billion in grants annually to Israel, with Israel being the largest annual recipient of American aid from 1976 to 2004 and the largest cumulative recipient of aid since World War II. Bilateral relations have evolved from an initial U.S. policy of sympathy and support for the creation of a Jewish homeland in 1948 to an unusual partnership that links a small but militarily powerful Israel, dependent on the United States for its economic and military strength, with the American superpower trying to balance other competing interests in the region. Others maintain that Israel is a strategic ally, and that U.S. relations with Israel strengthen the U.S. presence in the Middle East. Exclamation

Cuba: Exclamation Cuba and the United States of America have had an interest in one another since well before either of their independence movements. Plans for purchase of Cuba from the Spanish Empire were put forward at various times by the United States. As the Spanish influence waned in the Caribbean, the United States gradually gained a position of economic and political dominance over the island, with the vast majority of foreign investment holdings and the bulk of imports and exports in its hands, as well as a strong influence on Cuban political affairs. Exclamation

Iraq: Exclamation Because of the primary roles taken by the United States and Britain in deposing Saddam Hussein and establishing interim governments to replace his regime, Iraq’s relationships with those countries, particularly the United States, are expected to remain paramount for the foreseeable future. Government and nongovernmental aid from the United States will continue as a crucial support in reconstruction. In 2006 formulation of more precise foreign policy priorities awaits the firm establishment of the permanent government. In the short term, Iraq’s relations with Western and Far Eastern economic powers are determined by debt forgiveness and reconstruction assistance, which have come from many quarters. Exclamation

Arabia: Exclamation Bilateral relations between the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the United States of America began in 1933 when full diplomatic relations were established. Despite the differences between the two countries—a conservative Islamic absolute monarchy, and a secular democracy—the two countries have been allies. Saudi Arabia considers the United States to be one of its closest allies and diplomatic partners. Exclamation
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Again I am asking: Where from are you deriving all those information? You government? Don't be silly... Sleepy

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22-07-2014, 06:32 PM (This post was last modified: 22-07-2014 06:35 PM by tau1996.)
Post: #9
RE: USA atomic strike
(22-07-2014 06:12 PM)PL_Soczek Wrote:  
(22-07-2014 02:10 PM)tau1996 Wrote:  
(22-07-2014 01:23 PM)PL_Soczek Wrote:  Do you really think that a MIG 29 can beat in combat a F 16? Or tanks remembering the war (for example Blinov) can beat a M-1 Abrams? I understand that not all your weapons are like that, but I am talking about at least 2000 backup tanks. I can also put a picture of a super - modern tank with laser guns and say that all Polish tanks are like that.

Do You really think that China is your ally? They are NEUTRAL, because there are many investors from the west and it could damage their economy. Why do you think that China didn't admit that Crimea is Russian? The only countries to do do so were Afghanistan, Belarus, Syria and Venezuela. Hmmm... interesting:
Belarus - a small pawn in the hands of Putin, with autocracy and censorship,
Syria - a completely destroyed country, with a regime, a war from 2011 and 300000 people killed already,
Venezuela - another country with a regime, there were many strikes against the government in 2014,
and Afghanistan - another country deep in war.

Okay, I decided to make a list of allies with their global firepower:
USA - 1. ------------- Russia - 2.
CANADA 16. ------------ ARGENTINA 55.
GREENLAND - ------------ AFGHANISTAN 76.
FRENCH GUYANA - ------------ VENEZUELA 62.
MOROCCO 65. ------------ SYRIA 26. (WAR)
EGYPT 13. ------------ BELARUS 52.
MEXICO 33. ------------ KAZAKHSTAN 80.
COLOMBIA 54. ------------ UZBEKISTAN 48.
BRAZIL 14.
NIGERIA 47.
LIBYA 78.
PORTUGAL 53.
SPAIN 28.
ICELAND -
IRELAND -
GREAT BRITAIN 5.
ITALY 12.
NORWAY 39.
DENMARK 43.
GERMANY 7.
NETHERLANDS 32.
FRANCE 36.
POLAND 18.
BELGIUM 34.
LUXEMBOURG -
GREECE 57.
TURKEY 8.
CZECH REPUBLIC 30.
SLOVAKIA 71.
HUNGARY 61.
SLOVENIA 94.
BULGARIA 70.
ROMANIA 51.
ESTONIA 96.
LITHUANIA 103.
LATVIA -
SAUDI ARABIA 25.
OMAN 69.
YEMEN 45.
PAKISTAN 15.
INDIA 4.
BANGLADESH 56.
SOUTH KOREA 9.
TAIWAN 17.
JAPAN 10.
MALAYSIA 38.
THAILAND 24.
AUSTRALIA 20.
NEW ZEALAND 85.
PHILIPPINES 37.
ALBANIA -
CUBA -
IRAQ 68.
ISRAEL 11.

Iraq nation is not pro-USA.Arabs hate the USA
Israel is not pro USA.The Israel people even helped the DNR
Cuba is not pro USA
South Corea is blocked by its other,comunistic,part
Turkey is actually neutrall
All of the Arab nations hate the USA,but are afraid of its guns
Greece nation is not pro USA,but the government is
Bulgaria nation is pro Russia
Luxemburg is not a power
France is largely pro-Russian(Why do you think Mary Le Pen became popular)

and China is an ally of RF.Maybe not forever,but for now they are allied.Putin has a contract with China,counted in milliards upon milliards of dollars.Just look in the Google...Putin is not a fool to make such contracts with a country that he can not trust.Putin is from KGB,and no fools are recruited to the KGB.

Haha, sorry but it is the government that controls the army not a percentage of the nation. TURKEY, GREECE and BULGARIA are in NATO, so they HAVE to help. I have no idea where from did you get your information. Not sure if You know, but when any countries of the alliance are being attacked, EVERYONE must defend them. Of course there are countries like Bulgaria, Czech Republic or Hungary, that are less critical to Russia, but only because they are afraid of gas shortages with no alternative source, not PRO - RUSSIAN. Sorry, I forgot to add North Korea to Your ally. SOUTH KOREA is more powerful then North Korea, and also the situation between them, although intense, is currently pretty stable. LUXEMBOURG has about 1000 soldiers, but it is still a member of NATO. Is 20% "Largely"? FRANCE is less critical to Russia, just because they have a contract for some ships worth 200 000 000 $. And Marie Le Pen is anti - Jewish and anti - EU. Every country has someone like that (nationalist), for example Poland - Korwin or England - Farage.

Israel: Exclamation Israel–United States relations are an important factor in the United States government's overall policy in the Middle East, and Congress has placed considerable importance on the maintenance of a close and supportive relationship. The main expression of Congressional support for Israel has been foreign aid. Since 1985, it has provided nearly $3 billion in grants annually to Israel, with Israel being the largest annual recipient of American aid from 1976 to 2004 and the largest cumulative recipient of aid since World War II. Bilateral relations have evolved from an initial U.S. policy of sympathy and support for the creation of a Jewish homeland in 1948 to an unusual partnership that links a small but militarily powerful Israel, dependent on the United States for its economic and military strength, with the American superpower trying to balance other competing interests in the region. Others maintain that Israel is a strategic ally, and that U.S. relations with Israel strengthen the U.S. presence in the Middle East. Exclamation

Cuba: Exclamation Cuba and the United States of America have had an interest in one another since well before either of their independence movements. Plans for purchase of Cuba from the Spanish Empire were put forward at various times by the United States. As the Spanish influence waned in the Caribbean, the United States gradually gained a position of economic and political dominance over the island, with the vast majority of foreign investment holdings and the bulk of imports and exports in its hands, as well as a strong influence on Cuban political affairs. Exclamation

Iraq: Exclamation Because of the primary roles taken by the United States and Britain in deposing Saddam Hussein and establishing interim governments to replace his regime, Iraq’s relationships with those countries, particularly the United States, are expected to remain paramount for the foreseeable future. Government and nongovernmental aid from the United States will continue as a crucial support in reconstruction. In 2006 formulation of more precise foreign policy priorities awaits the firm establishment of the permanent government. In the short term, Iraq’s relations with Western and Far Eastern economic powers are determined by debt forgiveness and reconstruction assistance, which have come from many quarters. Exclamation

Arabia: Exclamation Bilateral relations between the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the United States of America began in 1933 when full diplomatic relations were established. Despite the differences between the two countries—a conservative Islamic absolute monarchy, and a secular democracy—the two countries have been allies. Saudi Arabia considers the United States to be one of its closest allies and diplomatic partners. Exclamation
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Again I am asking: Where from are you deriving all those information? You government? Don't be silly... Sleepy

1)Cuba is not with USA!They are communists,or,how you democrats call them 'commies'Exclamation
2)Iraq.The nation decides,not the government.Remember the Maydan and the DNR and LNR.Do you think that arabs adore americans,who killed them and there families?
3)Arabia.Similar to Iraq.Arabs do not like the USA.

P.c. I am asking too:Where from are YOU deriving all those information?USA government sites?
P.p.c. I have been to Cuba,Turkey,Egypt,Arabian Emirates,China,Kazahstan,Poland,Belarus,Bulgaria,Greece so I know the 'national motives' of this countries first-hand.
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22-07-2014, 07:17 PM
Post: #10
RE: USA atomic strike
You think I havn't been to this places? Ok I havn't been to Cuba, and I have done some further reaserch, so I know they aren't pro-USA :-) I have been to whole Europe expect Iceland. I went to Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Nigeria, India, China, Arabia, USA, Georgia, Canada and I have lived in England for 5 years, so I met many foreigners . I know that Iran doesn't like USA as wellbas the talib and terrorist organisations, but USA helps this region and bonds close relationships with Arabia, etc. The Americans didn't want an intervention in Afghanistan, and...? See that Maydan costed 100 lives of the Uprisers. In a global war it would be the generals and strategists to dictate the rules. Goverments wouldn't have time to deal with a percentage of stirred people. I have collected this info from many sources. My uncle has close relationships with many embassy and he knows the attitudes in many countries so I could easily compare the information Big Grin

Oh and I didn't mention that China is neutral and only interested in business. Putin is a genius, it doesn't change the fact that is cynical and egocentric. He can trust China, beacause he knows that the spinning wheel of their econmy is business, that is why they will stay neutral.

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